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i have to say, i was interested thinking about mandela and obama yesterday, i went back to obama's books to see, oh, he must have talked about the mandela example in the book. not so much. there was one mention of mandela in each book. i was sort of surprised at that given as he has said that he was a figure of -- a model to him as a young man when he learned of his struggle. >> i wonder how much because mandela was the first black president of south africa and president obama is the first black president of america, the drawing of parallel lines is somewhat inevitable. the president remarked on in the speech, he will never be the man madiba was nor does he propose that he is. i think he's been hesitant to step into the line of inheritance, if you will, maya, established. >> the context is totally different. we have to understand that. nelson mandela after being arrested in 1962, spending 26 years in prison, spending five years negotiating peace before he was released. obama elected in a highly democratic nation, even with its racial divides. there's just no comparison. it actually doesn
i have to say, i was interested thinking about mandela and obama yesterday, i went back to obama's books to see, oh, he must have talked about the mandela example in the book. not so much. there was one mention of mandela in each book. i was sort of surprised at that given as he has said that he was a figure of -- a model to him as a young man when he learned of his struggle. >> i wonder how much because mandela was the first black president of south africa and president obama is the...
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mandela a communist last night, another fox news personality said about president obama on the same network, now, just hours earlier, listen to this. >> more class warfare, more radical wealth redistribution because this is who he is. he is essentially a statist. he is essentially a socialist. >> socialist, communist. so, i mean, this is almost like talking to sound bites being thrown around purposefully. >> they said the same things about dr. martin luther king jr. we can't judge what the obama presidency will be perceived 20 years from now. my suspicion is that a man that tried to make sure people had access to health care, i don't think they're going to say you know that's a lot like slavery or apartheid. i don't think that's going to be the legend of barack obama that we remember. >> you know, i think that people don't have a sense of how controversial these struggles were and how to fight opposition. i mean, i've been in the civil rights fight for the last several decades. and i remember the beginnings of the fight against apartheid here. robinson and gray and others who were castigate
mandela a communist last night, another fox news personality said about president obama on the same network, now, just hours earlier, listen to this. >> more class warfare, more radical wealth redistribution because this is who he is. he is essentially a statist. he is essentially a socialist. >> socialist, communist. so, i mean, this is almost like talking to sound bites being thrown around purposefully. >> they said the same things about dr. martin luther king jr. we can't...
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>> obama should act like mandela tonight. obama should call boehner and say we are working on a deal. >> out in calling for social justice he's doing that. >> billy -- >> you're making no sense. >> that end this is segment. up next, let the softball questionses tingle up your leg, thrill up your leg. his number one fan, he sat down with the president? did he bow, worship, light candles? we'll play some of that coming up. you have been voting for tonight's video of the day. third final option is a clip of the hilarious -- well, somewhat funny, occasionally funny ron burgundy at emerson college. >> i thought you guys only met once every four years. to pick the president. but to be here at the electoral college -- is it? am i getting that right? emerson. emerson college. >> don't forget. we want to hear from you. log onto hannitylive.foxnews.com. follow the show, share your thoughts. you can join us on twitter @sean hannity. [ paper rustles, outdoor sounds ] ♪ [ male announcer ] laura's heart attack didn't come with a warning.
>> obama should act like mandela tonight. obama should call boehner and say we are working on a deal. >> out in calling for social justice he's doing that. >> billy -- >> you're making no sense. >> that end this is segment. up next, let the softball questionses tingle up your leg, thrill up your leg. his number one fan, he sat down with the president? did he bow, worship, light candles? we'll play some of that coming up. you have been voting for tonight's video of...
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president obama penned the forward for mandela's 2010 memoir "conversations with myself." he wrote his example helped awakened me to the wider world and the obligation that we all have to stand up for what is right. through his choices, mandela made it clear that we did not have to accept the world as it is, take we could do our part to seek the world as it should be. when president obama visited south africa this summer, mandela was so ill, the two were unable to meet. still mandela's inspiration played large during the president's trip. president obama returned to robben island, the prison where mandela known as madiba spent 18 years but this time he brought his entire family. >> there was something different about bringing my children and malia is now 15. sasha is 12. and seeing them stand within the walls that once surrounded nelson mandela, i knew this was an experience that they would never forget. i knew that they now appreciated a little bit more the sacrifices that madiba and others had made for freedom. >> reporter: soon after the leader's death was announced, ob
president obama penned the forward for mandela's 2010 memoir "conversations with myself." he wrote his example helped awakened me to the wider world and the obligation that we all have to stand up for what is right. through his choices, mandela made it clear that we did not have to accept the world as it is, take we could do our part to seek the world as it should be. when president obama visited south africa this summer, mandela was so ill, the two were unable to meet. still...
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also known as madiba, will be laid to rest in south africa. >> well, president obama and the first lady will travel to south africa next week to pay their respects. the president speaking about mandela's spirit and legacy after getting word of his passing. saying simply that mandela belongs to the ainges and that his struggles and triumphs were an inspiration. the president also ordering flag t at halftime. >> mandela being honored around the world and also high above the world. nasa tweeting from space in honor of nelson mandela, who died today, here is an image of south africa from the international space station. it's beautiful. great view of the nation that mandela changed forever. >> and among those remembering mandela is a man who is in close contact with the former african president's family. he met the leader in person five years ago when he won the nelson mandela pride for african security and development. he is the director of the africa center of the atlantic counsel. peter, great to have you with us now. so, the thing that is so awe inspiring about nelson mandela is that he
also known as madiba, will be laid to rest in south africa. >> well, president obama and the first lady will travel to south africa next week to pay their respects. the president speaking about mandela's spirit and legacy after getting word of his passing. saying simply that mandela belongs to the ainges and that his struggles and triumphs were an inspiration. the president also ordering flag t at halftime. >> mandela being honored around the world and also high above the world....
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that's how president obama refers to nelson mandela. a man he met some eight years ago at a meeting here in washington, d.c. when obama was still a freshman senator from illinois. yesterday he spoke out about mande mandela's impact on his life. >> the day he was released from prison gave me a sense of what human beings can do when guided by their hopes and not by their fears. and like so many around the globe, i cannot fully imagine my own life without the example that nelson mandela set. >> joining me now is rick strength am. he collaborated on the ought buy all offy of nelson mandela. and also the author of mandela's ways on life, love and courage. thanks for joining us. the president will be heading over to south africa to pay his respects and america ago respects to nelson mandela. what should we be paying attention to? >> wolf, i think every world leader, including president obama wants to borrow a little bit from the halo of nelson mandela. but in the case of president obama, knicksed-race president, a man whose fare was from the
that's how president obama refers to nelson mandela. a man he met some eight years ago at a meeting here in washington, d.c. when obama was still a freshman senator from illinois. yesterday he spoke out about mande mandela's impact on his life. >> the day he was released from prison gave me a sense of what human beings can do when guided by their hopes and not by their fears. and like so many around the globe, i cannot fully imagine my own life without the example that nelson mandela set....
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here, i think president obama was helping us understand that will what will nelson mandela was first and foremost a son of south africa, but more than that, he became a father to the modern world, to the moral path forward as he saw it. >> all right. david gergen, thank you so much. appreciate your perspective. michael, it's interesting you and i asked christiane amanpour whether or not there would be any lesson that all those world leaders coming together would go have based on mandela. we saw that happened shake today between the president and the cuban president. >> something happened. >> from cuba to the u.s. and also china, had royalty, rock stars. the breadth of those, you had people there who all came together for nelson mandela which was fascinating >> a wonderful moment. here's more of what we're working on "around the world." ice, wind, sleet snow hitting the east coast for another day. even federal offices in washington, d.c. are closed. we're tracking the flights and the roads up ahead. no matter how busy your morning you can always do something better for yourself. and b
here, i think president obama was helping us understand that will what will nelson mandela was first and foremost a son of south africa, but more than that, he became a father to the modern world, to the moral path forward as he saw it. >> all right. david gergen, thank you so much. appreciate your perspective. michael, it's interesting you and i asked christiane amanpour whether or not there would be any lesson that all those world leaders coming together would go have based on mandela....
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mandela had been so ill this year president obama did not personally visit with him on that trip. the only time the two men apparently ever met in person was in 2005 in washington when mr. obama was just starting his career in the united states senate. the new york times reports that the one visit started when mr. mandela's advisers told him that while he was there he ought to take a little bit of time to try to meet this rising star young senator who had given such a great speech at the democratic national convention the year before. and so senator obama got the call unexpectedly. he was on his way to a meeting on a totally different subject at the time, but he diverted course and drove to mr. mandela's hotel room in washington, and that is where this picture was taken, which is the only picture of the two men ever taken. it was taken by senator obama's personal assistant at the time who was driving him to that other meeting when the call came through to please come meet nelson mandela, and that's the only time they've ever been photographed together. we'll be right back. more to
mandela had been so ill this year president obama did not personally visit with him on that trip. the only time the two men apparently ever met in person was in 2005 in washington when mr. obama was just starting his career in the united states senate. the new york times reports that the one visit started when mr. mandela's advisers told him that while he was there he ought to take a little bit of time to try to meet this rising star young senator who had given such a great speech at the...
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for mandela. naz johannesburg. church mass from the church of nativity in bethlehem. ♪ that mass will also happen, i think we have pictures of that. the death of nelson mandela has led many to reflect on really what it means to forgive. and what it means to be forgiven. and when mandela walked out of prison after 27 years, brutal years behind bars, he forgave his jailers. he let go of the pain and regret and hurt. >> and, you know what? that's not an easy thing to do for any of us in our lives based on if somebody has hurt us. a lot of us will never -- know what exactly that was like. but we get that hurt and that pain and how do you forgive? how do you get over it? to discuss, we are joined by brent stron who teaches bible and theology at the canvas school and in new york we have a clinical psychologist. thank you both so much for being with us. i want to read a quote to you here from mandela about forgiveness real quick. it is, "as i walked out the door toward the gate that would lead to my fr
for mandela. naz johannesburg. church mass from the church of nativity in bethlehem. ♪ that mass will also happen, i think we have pictures of that. the death of nelson mandela has led many to reflect on really what it means to forgive. and what it means to be forgiven. and when mandela walked out of prison after 27 years, brutal years behind bars, he forgave his jailers. he let go of the pain and regret and hurt. >> and, you know what? that's not an easy thing to do for any of us in...
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how did mandela's death overshadow president obama's push for obama care this week? plus, have we fina >>> here now, some of this week's images to remember. >>> president obama at the christmas tree lighting. back with our roundtable. the politics of the moment is obama care, and the president was out there reselling it this week, katty kay. this is a portion of what he said. >> if i've got to fight another three years to make sure this law works, then that's what i'll do. that's what we'll do. >> underscoring that this is really the only job he has in his second term, right? >> it may be all he gets done in his second term. if he can make this succeed, this will be his legacy issue. and if you look at the chances of getting immigration reform, of getting some kind of comprehensive jobs bill, of getting some kind of infrastructure, of getting tax reform which is what businesses say they'll need, he may have to use the next three years to make it work, and this may be what he's left with as his big legacy issue. >> but you write it's not just about the website. there
how did mandela's death overshadow president obama's push for obama care this week? plus, have we fina >>> here now, some of this week's images to remember. >>> president obama at the christmas tree lighting. back with our roundtable. the politics of the moment is obama care, and the president was out there reselling it this week, katty kay. this is a portion of what he said. >> if i've got to fight another three years to make sure this law works, then that's what i'll...
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when obama was president and mandela was president, they didn't meet while he was president but obama has met him back in 2005. we'll keep listening to ban ki-moon who's talked about the rainbow nation, justice and got massive applause, the respect these leaders are paying to the people of south africa. >> i hope it continues in tolerance and for prosperity and peace. nelson mandela showed us a way with a heart larger than this stadium and an infectious smile that couwas as powerful as ligh. nelson mandela is at rest. let us now be guided and inspired by the spirit he gave all of us, the flame of human rights, the beaker of hope. nelson mandela fought throughout his life for each and every one of us. it is the duty of all of us who loved him to keep his memory alive in our hearts and to embody his -- in our eyes. may he rest in peace. thank you. thank you very much. >> we just heard from the u.n. secretary general, ban ki-moon. he hit several important themes for the south african people. and some of them were, of course, the rainbow nation, hoping someday the dream is realized as a r
when obama was president and mandela was president, they didn't meet while he was president but obama has met him back in 2005. we'll keep listening to ban ki-moon who's talked about the rainbow nation, justice and got massive applause, the respect these leaders are paying to the people of south africa. >> i hope it continues in tolerance and for prosperity and peace. nelson mandela showed us a way with a heart larger than this stadium and an infectious smile that couwas as powerful as...
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how did mandela's death overshadow president obama's push for obama care this week? plus, have we finally turned a corner on our economy? next, our roundtable is back with some of their analysis of those questions. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. ti'm bethand i'm michelle.e. and we own the paper cottage. it's a stationery and gifts store. anything we purchase for the paper cottage goes on our ink card. so you can manage your business expenses and access them online instantly with the game changing app from ink. we didn't get into business to spend time managing receipts, that's why we have ink. we like being in business because we like being creative, we like interacting with people. so you have time to focus on the things you love. ink from chase. so you can. >>> here now, some of this week's images to remember. imag. >>> president obama at the christmas tree lighting. back with our roundtable. the politics of the moment is obama care, and the pres
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obama said of mandela what was said of another great emancipator, abraham lincoln: "he belongs to the ages." mandela's legacy, the president said, is a free south africa at peace with itself, an example to the world. for cbs news, i'm scott pelley. good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, [ female announcer ] for those who love sweets your season is here. let's just call it the baking time of year. you need special ingredients. you need the staples for homemade. you need safeway sugar for just a buck eighty-eight. and that magic thing that makes everyone want another only two ninety-nine and when hands get messy, quite surely they'll say, yum! wow! yay! what a sweeter holiday. safeway. ingredients for life.
obama said of mandela what was said of another great emancipator, abraham lincoln: "he belongs to the ages." mandela's legacy, the president said, is a free south africa at peace with itself, an example to the world. for cbs news, i'm scott pelley. good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, [ female announcer ] for those who love sweets your season is here. let's just call it the baking time of year. you need special...
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president obama eulogized president mandela. >> the day he was released from prison shows me what can be done when presidents are guided by their faith and not by their fears. >> yet president obama has struggled since he made history. he still aspires to achieve political consensus on some of the country's most pressing challenges. mandela also faced obstacles. while obama only met the south african leader once, president obama clearly understands the meaning of mandela. i was in college when mandela was freed from prison. in 1990 i traveled to oakland to see him during his visit to the u.s. on a victory tour, of sorts. he thank ed the tens of thousans gathered in the oakland sun for his support and toppling the right racist regime. his pure joy talking to the crowd is what i will always remember. i welcome this moment to pay tribute to nelson mandela as a figure who can inspire human beings to be better people. he exuded patience, principal as well as grace as a person. even after so much had been taken from him, he kept his heart open and changed the world. up next here, more on ma
president obama eulogized president mandela. >> the day he was released from prison shows me what can be done when presidents are guided by their faith and not by their fears. >> yet president obama has struggled since he made history. he still aspires to achieve political consensus on some of the country's most pressing challenges. mandela also faced obstacles. while obama only met the south african leader once, president obama clearly understands the meaning of mandela. i was in...
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obama who met mandela shortly after becoming first lady. president bush and laura bush have been invited to travel with the obamas, and former president clinton and hillary clinton will travel to the tribute for nelson mandela. from south africa we hear from one of his friends who described those final visits with the man he revered. abc's byron pitts from outside mandela's home. >> reporter: nowhere has admiration for nelson mandela been stronger, expressed more passionately than a few feet from his doorstep outside his home where the beloved statesman took his last breath. >> by singing and dancing, it's a way of showing our appreciation. >> he represents this country. >> reporter: nelson mandela will be laid to rest in grand style. tuesday, a memorial service ke the world has never seen. some 95,000 people packed inside the stadium. wednesday through friday the former president will lay in state in pretoria, the nation's legislative capital. next sunday mandela will be laid to rest in the small village of his boyhood on the eastern cape.
obama who met mandela shortly after becoming first lady. president bush and laura bush have been invited to travel with the obamas, and former president clinton and hillary clinton will travel to the tribute for nelson mandela. from south africa we hear from one of his friends who described those final visits with the man he revered. abc's byron pitts from outside mandela's home. >> reporter: nowhere has admiration for nelson mandela been stronger, expressed more passionately than a few...
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if the funeral of nelson mandela, and president obama who complained on a platform of talking to enemies even if you're in a condition of great hostility, given all of those things, you're going to expect president obama to snub raul castro in front of cameras? that was unlikely to happen. >> michael smerconish, i think your take would be a quite unique. >> you can be the judge. my take is that the cuban embargo has been 100% successful in keeping the castros in power because it's given the two of them a built in bookie man for all that's wrong with their economy. i'm a believe if we had had open trade with cuba long ago the castro brothers would have fell. we should give those kids down there a taste of xboxes and see how long the castro brothers can stay in power. >> full disclosure, you have some history with the castros, no? >> as a journalist, i once was in a meeting with fidel castro, an 8-hour meeting, not that i was turned in the course of this conversation, i long believed in freedom for cuban people and disagree with the whole success of democratic and republican administration
if the funeral of nelson mandela, and president obama who complained on a platform of talking to enemies even if you're in a condition of great hostility, given all of those things, you're going to expect president obama to snub raul castro in front of cameras? that was unlikely to happen. >> michael smerconish, i think your take would be a quite unique. >> you can be the judge. my take is that the cuban embargo has been 100% successful in keeping the castros in power because it's...
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you didn't hear that with obama, president obama. what you heard were applause when he quoted president mandela in very significant ways. i thought that was, you know, something to make note of. >> i agree. you're a lot closer to it than i. both geographically and your own personal connection. it was very meaningful and moving to me even at this remove. on the background, there was some booing. you raised the issue of potential corruption and failing to live up to the legacy of his predecessor. >> absolutely. i think there will be a lot of people who fall into that category because everybody today said there's no other person who could ever be as great as nelson mandela. i think that remains to be seen but at this moment was the case. i frankly was a little surprised at the booing. mass actions, demonstrations for better basic services like we were coming out of soweto coming back to johannesburg today, normally about a 40-minute ride. it took us forever because the water had broken down many of the bridges. the water was just flowin
you didn't hear that with obama, president obama. what you heard were applause when he quoted president mandela in very significant ways. i thought that was, you know, something to make note of. >> i agree. you're a lot closer to it than i. both geographically and your own personal connection. it was very meaningful and moving to me even at this remove. on the background, there was some booing. you raised the issue of potential corruption and failing to live up to the legacy of his...
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president obama leaving on air force one tomorrow night with the first lady, of course, who met mandela with her daughters. the obamas have invited former president george w. bush and laura bush to travel them. the bushes have said they will. former president clinton and hillary clinton making the trip, as will former president jimmy carter, too. tonight, we learned queen elizabeth, who met mandela a number of times, has asked that her son prince charles attend in her place. and on this sunday in south africa, a day of prayer. and word from one of nelson mandela's daughters, during his final days. abc's byron pitts is there. >> reporter: this sunday was soaked in symbolism. the former township, once the epicenter of the anti-apartheid movement. grief and gratitude stretched across generations. he spoke for a nation. >> i'm here today, he fought for our freedom. if it wasn't for him, we wouldn't be here. we wouldn't be having all the things that we have. >> reporter: for nelson mandela's memorial service on tuesday, with world leaders from across the globe in attendance, it will be the l
president obama leaving on air force one tomorrow night with the first lady, of course, who met mandela with her daughters. the obamas have invited former president george w. bush and laura bush to travel them. the bushes have said they will. former president clinton and hillary clinton making the trip, as will former president jimmy carter, too. tonight, we learned queen elizabeth, who met mandela a number of times, has asked that her son prince charles attend in her place. and on this sunday...
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we are expecting, as well, that president obama may be touching base with nelson mandela's wife gra gracamachel, certainly something he's interested in doing. this is a such a logistical feat when you think of all these world leaders going to south africa and how big an effort this is to get president obama there. because mandela has been ill for so long, unfortunately, this is something they had some time to plan for. >> there could be a little diplomatic awkwardness on the podium. the program has been released by the south african government. we see president obama will pay special tribute. these are tributes by foreign dignitaries. six selected. the leaders from the u.s., brazil, the haven't of china, namib namibia -- libya and president raul castro of cuba will be up on the same stage with the president of the united states. i wonder if they'll shake hands, exchange words. could be a little awkward since the u.s. does not have the full diplomatic releases with canada and still cuba is regarded as a state sponsor of international terrorism. have they said anything at the white house about th
we are expecting, as well, that president obama may be touching base with nelson mandela's wife gra gracamachel, certainly something he's interested in doing. this is a such a logistical feat when you think of all these world leaders going to south africa and how big an effort this is to get president obama there. because mandela has been ill for so long, unfortunately, this is something they had some time to plan for. >> there could be a little diplomatic awkwardness on the podium. the...
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>> well, i -- i do think that mandela is -- as obama said, one of a kind. and obama invokes some of the hope and inspiration. obama is much younger. i think that the question of guantanamo and certain foreign policies make his situation more complex. particularly as one views it in comparison to the entire arc of a life. particularly as one compares mandela to people like gandhi and king, who have been tested, as tom said, by periods of extraordinary imprisonment. and i think sometimes the wisdom that comes out of those experiences really are the ability to bridge two very different life experiences. and so mandela keeps being called a warrior of peace, warrior of human dignity. and that really embraces i think the contradiction of somebody who has had the deep experience of being both a warrior and a peace maker. obama, i think, has the dignity and certainly in some ways almost the kind of physiology me that resembles the quiet smile of mandela. but i think the long-term history, that's quite -- that's quite a comparison that -- >> it's very hard to make t
>> well, i -- i do think that mandela is -- as obama said, one of a kind. and obama invokes some of the hope and inspiration. obama is much younger. i think that the question of guantanamo and certain foreign policies make his situation more complex. particularly as one views it in comparison to the entire arc of a life. particularly as one compares mandela to people like gandhi and king, who have been tested, as tom said, by periods of extraordinary imprisonment. and i think sometimes...
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. >>> and first president obama and other world leaders take off for south africa to honor nelson mandela. >>> this is a fox news alert, government sources confirm justice department prosecutors filed charges against a russian spy ring. it involves a group of current and former russian diplomats who ran a nine year scheme that stole $1.5 million from medicaid. they were also apparently engaged in espionage and being investigated for other reasons than just the medicaid fraud. about 50 people were charged. of those, 11 are still in the u.s. and have immunity so they can't be arrested. but the state department can send them home. topping world headlines now, dozens of world leaders, past and present, are joining with tens of thousands of others making their way to south africa to pay their final respects to the late nelson mandela. greg tal cot is in johannesberg with more. >> the world is coming to south africa to honor nelson mandela. they are testimony to the reach of a man and his message. president obama, first lady michelle and the bushes and clintons are wheels up. also well over 70
. >>> and first president obama and other world leaders take off for south africa to honor nelson mandela. >>> this is a fox news alert, government sources confirm justice department prosecutors filed charges against a russian spy ring. it involves a group of current and former russian diplomats who ran a nine year scheme that stole $1.5 million from medicaid. they were also apparently engaged in espionage and being investigated for other reasons than just the medicaid fraud....
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tuesday, nelson mandela's memorial service, president obama, former presidents george w. bush, bill clinton, all going to attend. move on to "times" person of the year. "times" editors choosing the person of the year who had such an impact or people talked about so much. as for the online poll, we know egypt's defense minister came out on top followed by others such as new jersey chris christie, amazon ceo jeff besos. and yes, miley cyrus as well. friday, lets talk about budget negotiation deadlines for congress. uh-huh. getting it done is going to avoid another federal shutdown. we'll see if it happens. saturday the one-year anniversary of the sandy hook shooting tragedy. one year ago a gunman opened fire in a connecticut elementary school killing 26 people, most of them young children. who can forget that day. i know you remember where you were that moment you heard about it. sunday nelson mandela will be laid to rest, funeral and burial will be on the grounds of the leader's childhood home. they are going to erect a large tent. everyone who attends will be in the hills
tuesday, nelson mandela's memorial service, president obama, former presidents george w. bush, bill clinton, all going to attend. move on to "times" person of the year. "times" editors choosing the person of the year who had such an impact or people talked about so much. as for the online poll, we know egypt's defense minister came out on top followed by others such as new jersey chris christie, amazon ceo jeff besos. and yes, miley cyrus as well. friday, lets talk about...
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mandela's memorial service. when he returns, expect him to refocus on what he says is his administration's target for the remainder of his presidency.
mandela's memorial service. when he returns, expect him to refocus on what he says is his administration's target for the remainder of his presidency.
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radio show and slamming obama care. that's right. even a crack-smoking mayor is blasting obama care. >> as a person, i like president obama. i don't like his politics. i'm a conservative. i would be a republican in the states. i don't believe in public funded health care. we have to pay for it. what you are doing down there i can't get my head around it. it's costing a fortune. i don't know where you are finding the money. i think people are taxed to death and i don't mind two-tier health care if you want it, pay for it. i understand it. but you know, and we have general health care up here. but, you know, it's going to cost a fortune for you to put in this obama care. and i don't see how the people will afford it. >> the mayor was invited to talk about sports. >>> and now to a warning to computer users around the world. more than 2 million facebook, google and twitter passwords have been stolen. online networks have disabled affected passwords and that's tonight's speed read. >>> why do the democrats tell us things they know aren't
radio show and slamming obama care. that's right. even a crack-smoking mayor is blasting obama care. >> as a person, i like president obama. i don't like his politics. i'm a conservative. i would be a republican in the states. i don't believe in public funded health care. we have to pay for it. what you are doing down there i can't get my head around it. it's costing a fortune. i don't know where you are finding the money. i think people are taxed to death and i don't mind two-tier health...
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presidents, president obama and former president george w. bush, clinton, and carter. the body of nelson mandela will lay in state three days in the capital of pretoria and then he'll be buried at his home village several hundred miles away. one more note, jamie and eric, one more note we're seeing in the media, thursday night when nelson mandela passed, he was off life support. he was breathing on his own. he was sleeping. according to one person who was there, he just seemed to give up. he fought and won so many more battles before that. back to you. >> all right, greg. much more on his life and legacy in just a moment. thank you. >>> former new york city mayor david dinkins will be joining us coming up. meanwhile lawmakers on capitol hill are getting harsh criticism as their approval rating dipped. is the so-called do nothing congress doing more than we think. >> as we said and as jamie just mentioned, the world is mourning the death of nelson mandela. the next guest, the guy right there on the left, he was the first official to welcome mandela to our country and th
presidents, president obama and former president george w. bush, clinton, and carter. the body of nelson mandela will lay in state three days in the capital of pretoria and then he'll be buried at his home village several hundred miles away. one more note, jamie and eric, one more note we're seeing in the media, thursday night when nelson mandela passed, he was off life support. he was breathing on his own. he was sleeping. according to one person who was there, he just seemed to give up. he...
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president obama pushing redistribution. the brutal knockout game. and bob's annual christmas lights. it's all coming your way. first, nelson mandela will be laid to rest in south africa on december 15th. president and mrs. obama will be there to pay their respects. fox's ed henry just wrapped
president obama pushing redistribution. the brutal knockout game. and bob's annual christmas lights. it's all coming your way. first, nelson mandela will be laid to rest in south africa on december 15th. president and mrs. obama will be there to pay their respects. fox's ed henry just wrapped
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. >> that student's name was barak obama. free mandela became a popular rallying cry. not everyone in america was on board with freeing mandela and fighting the apartheid regime a. bill was introduced in congress. the anti-apartheid act of 19 necks would require the complete withdrawal. nelson mandela had been in prison for nearly a quarter century, for 24 hour years. apartheid had been the law of the land in south africa for 40 years and the bill did pass the house. it did pass the senate and then the president of the united states wouldn't put his signature on it. ronald reagan retoed the south african sanctions bill. >> night after night, week after week, television has brought us reports of violence by south african security forces bringing injury and death to peaceful demonstrators and innocent bystanders, more recently, we read of violent attacks by plaques against blacks. then there is the cal can ycula terror the mining of roads, bombings of public places, the imposition of marshall law and eventually creating the conditions for racial war. >> reagan was the bi
. >> that student's name was barak obama. free mandela became a popular rallying cry. not everyone in america was on board with freeing mandela and fighting the apartheid regime a. bill was introduced in congress. the anti-apartheid act of 19 necks would require the complete withdrawal. nelson mandela had been in prison for nearly a quarter century, for 24 hour years. apartheid had been the law of the land in south africa for 40 years and the bill did pass the house. it did pass the...
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. >>> in south africa, a day of prayer and mourning for nelson mandela with remembrances across the country. on tuesday a memorial in johannesburg will include dignitaries from around the world including president obama and the first lady. now back to "caught on camera." >>> welcome back to" caught on camera." i'm contessa brewer. a rot is loose in the new york city subway system. not just on the tracks, but in a train car. this next clip quickly went viral in january of 2011, and it's definitely creepy. but is it real? >> that rat does not mess around. >> it's not like a rat gets on the leg, oh, no, it's a human. i will get off of you. leg, torso, i'm going to go toward the face. >> it's a pretty horrifying, visceral thing when you see that. video is the kind of thing it's hard to resist passing around. oh, my god. did you see this? >> but did that really just happen? >> i will say it did seem like it might have been people playing a joke. like they had a pet rat and were like, oh, let's let a rat loose on the subway. i did think it was a trained rat. i thought there would be a clicking no
. >>> in south africa, a day of prayer and mourning for nelson mandela with remembrances across the country. on tuesday a memorial in johannesburg will include dignitaries from around the world including president obama and the first lady. now back to "caught on camera." >>> welcome back to" caught on camera." i'm contessa brewer. a rot is loose in the new york city subway system. not just on the tracks, but in a train car. this next clip quickly went viral...
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we have a picture of mandela with president obama, then senator i think obama in washington, d.c. david, do you think the legacy of nelson mandela and his ability to steer south africans to democracy should be used as a template for other places where the few oppress the many? >> oh, yes, absolutely. and it's more than that, anderson. first of all, i don't think nelson mandela should be held accountable for what happens after he dies. other great leaders have been founders of a country. our own george washington, we had a lot of problems in this country after he died. and yet we look upon him as this heroic figure who helped to found the country and set the example. i think in nelson mandela's case he's a more transcendent figure. he transcends south africa and he belongs to the world. because there's something about his story. joseph campbell some years ago wrote this book called" the hero's journey." it was about the notion that in cultures all over the world all three the centuries there has been a central story about someone, a young man often or young woman who goes out into
we have a picture of mandela with president obama, then senator i think obama in washington, d.c. david, do you think the legacy of nelson mandela and his ability to steer south africans to democracy should be used as a template for other places where the few oppress the many? >> oh, yes, absolutely. and it's more than that, anderson. first of all, i don't think nelson mandela should be held accountable for what happens after he dies. other great leaders have been founders of a country....
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. >>> the obamas joining more than 50 world leaders paying tribute to nelson mandela tomorrow. president george w. bush and his wife will join them, president clinton and jimmy carter attending also. a big test for south africa's government as it plans the memorial expecting 94,000 people at fnb stadium where they had the world cup in 2010 and another 100,000 plus expected outside at overflow areas around the city. many details were worked out well in advance. politico is reporting the last-minute services are pretty daunting. concerns from the motorcade route to his safety once inside. meanwhile, sunday marked an official day of prayer across south africa. but in churches the scene was as much celebratory as mournful. other parts of the world, ukraine's president facing major unrest and a 48-hour deadline threat to disband his government. anti-government protesters yesterday toppled the stature of lenin. he's, of course, the founder of the soviet union, demonstrators took turns attacking the statue with hammers sort of reminiscent of the berlin wall falling in the early '90s a
. >>> the obamas joining more than 50 world leaders paying tribute to nelson mandela tomorrow. president george w. bush and his wife will join them, president clinton and jimmy carter attending also. a big test for south africa's government as it plans the memorial expecting 94,000 people at fnb stadium where they had the world cup in 2010 and another 100,000 plus expected outside at overflow areas around the city. many details were worked out well in advance. politico is reporting the...
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. >> pik botha reflects on mandela's life and legacy. and we'll go live to south africa for the latest on the death of a towering statesman. then, the white house launches a new obama care offensive. >> you got good ideas, bring them to me. let's go. but we're not repealing it
. >> pik botha reflects on mandela's life and legacy. and we'll go live to south africa for the latest on the death of a towering statesman. then, the white house launches a new obama care offensive. >> you got good ideas, bring them to me. let's go. but we're not repealing it
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summer was obama's top national security -- why he says the u.s. doesn't need to cut a deal with hamid karzai of afghanistan. >>> next, how to understand the booming american economy. i'll ask the man who presided over great growth and some critics charge also helped create many bubbles. former fed chair, alan greenspan. >>> and as we approach the first anniversary of the new town massacre, what can the u.s. learn from other nations about gun policy. i'll take you to japan for a fascinating look at a nation that loves violent video games but has a gun death rate that is very different from america's. it's a preview of a gps special airing tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern. >>> but first, here's my take. when nelson mandela was released from prison in 1990, i remember being struck by how old-fashioned he seemed. he spoke with the language cadence and manners from the 1930s, 40s and 1950s. he reminded me of the great national leaders of the post colonial world who led their countries to freedom. he had the same way of speaking and dressing, the same digni
summer was obama's top national security -- why he says the u.s. doesn't need to cut a deal with hamid karzai of afghanistan. >>> next, how to understand the booming american economy. i'll ask the man who presided over great growth and some critics charge also helped create many bubbles. former fed chair, alan greenspan. >>> and as we approach the first anniversary of the new town massacre, what can the u.s. learn from other nations about gun policy. i'll take you to japan for...
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for president obama is this is a little bit of a repeat. he was in south africa just this past summer. and at that time, nelson mandela's health was so poor that it was really touch and go. you had secret service in touch with the south african counterparts for some time now. a preliminary plan was in place here. i actually spoke today with former administration officials to presidents clinton and bush who were instrumental in planning their trips to the funerals for israeli prime minister and also to the funeral for pope john paul ii. within four to six hours of nelson mandela passing away a support plane en route to south africa and secret service very quickly casing out the areas where president obama would be. that said, anderson, they say it is a monumental undertaking because some of the security issues are sort of outsourced to the host country and that could be very nerve racking for secret service. >> well, we'll be there to cover it all starting at 3:30 a.m. eastern time in the united states. we hope you'll join us for that. let u
for president obama is this is a little bit of a repeat. he was in south africa just this past summer. and at that time, nelson mandela's health was so poor that it was really touch and go. you had secret service in touch with the south african counterparts for some time now. a preliminary plan was in place here. i actually spoke today with former administration officials to presidents clinton and bush who were instrumental in planning their trips to the funerals for israeli prime minister and...
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obama are gone. they're on their way to south africa right now. the occasion, of course, is the public memorial service for nelson mandela who died last thursday at age 95. more than 90 heads of state or government are going to join about 90,000 south african mourners at the soccer stadium in johannesburg set for tomorrow. that's the largest ceremony. but it's not the only one. from wednesday through friday his body will lie in state in pretoria. on sunday he'll be laid to rest in his hometown. >>> defense secretary chuck hagel is in pakistan trying to repair relations that have become strained over the drone strikes. as a result, they've shut down an important supply route to united states troops who are still in afghanistan. >>> senator schumer and blumenthal are calling for cameras nationwide on trains. they say it will help derail deadly accidents like the one that killed four people in new york last week. >>> eight companies want new curbs put in place on the national security agency. google, facebook, twitter, and the rest, they want the uni
obama are gone. they're on their way to south africa right now. the occasion, of course, is the public memorial service for nelson mandela who died last thursday at age 95. more than 90 heads of state or government are going to join about 90,000 south african mourners at the soccer stadium in johannesburg set for tomorrow. that's the largest ceremony. but it's not the only one. from wednesday through friday his body will lie in state in pretoria. on sunday he'll be laid to rest in his hometown....
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president obama joined more than 90 fellow world leaders in praising mandela's lifetime of sack cras fies in the service of freedom for all and he chided those leaders who dishonor mandela at home. >> there are too many people who happily embrace madiba's legacy of racial reconciliation but passionately resist even modest reforms that would challenge chronic poverty and growing inequality. there are too many leaders who claim solidarity with madiba's struggle for freedom but do not tolerate dissent from their own people. and there are too many of us, too many of us on the sidelines, comfortable in complacency or cynicism when our voices must be heard. >> the president did not name names, of course, but he could have been speaking of the man whose hand he shook with this image. this was quite something to behold, live on cnn. this happened, the president of cuba raul castro whose communist government has been on the outs with every american administration since eisenhower. want to bring in my colleague wolf blitzer who was watching this extraordinary moment from washington, d.c. so ob
president obama joined more than 90 fellow world leaders in praising mandela's lifetime of sack cras fies in the service of freedom for all and he chided those leaders who dishonor mandela at home. >> there are too many people who happily embrace madiba's legacy of racial reconciliation but passionately resist even modest reforms that would challenge chronic poverty and growing inequality. there are too many leaders who claim solidarity with madiba's struggle for freedom but do not...
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for president obama is this is a little bit of a repeat. he was in south africa just this past summer. and at that time, nelson mandela's health was so poor that it was really touch and go. you had secret service in touch with the south african counterparts for some time now. a preliminary plan was in place here. i actually spoke today with former administration officials to presidents clinton and bush who were instrumental in planning their trips to the funerals for israeli prime minister and also to the funeral for pope john paul ii. within four to six hours of nelson mandela passing away a support plane en route to south africa and secret service very quickly casing out the areas where president obama would be. that said, anderson, they say it is a monumental undertaking because some of the security issues are sort of outsourced to the host country and that could be very nerve racking for secret service. >> well, we'll be there to cover it all starting at 3:30 a.m. eastern time in the united states. we hope you'll join us for that. let u
for president obama is this is a little bit of a repeat. he was in south africa just this past summer. and at that time, nelson mandela's health was so poor that it was really touch and go. you had secret service in touch with the south african counterparts for some time now. a preliminary plan was in place here. i actually spoke today with former administration officials to presidents clinton and bush who were instrumental in planning their trips to the funerals for israeli prime minister and...
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. >>> coming up, president obama delivers a moving speech at the memorial for nelson mandela, but it's this moment that has many people talking. what does the president's handshake with raul castro mean for u.s.-cuba relations are going forward if anything? we'll talk about that. >>> also, the woman accused of shoving her husband off a cliff all of eight days after they said their i dos, her trial is just getting underway. the bride admits to pushing her husband to his death. he calls it self-defense. his friends, though, say something very different. that's next. orbiting the moon i. afghanistan in 2009. on the u.s.s. saratoga in 1982. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. maestro of project management. baron of the build-out. you need a permit... to be this awesome. and yo
. >>> coming up, president obama delivers a moving speech at the memorial for nelson mandela, but it's this moment that has many people talking. what does the president's handshake with raul castro mean for u.s.-cuba relations are going forward if anything? we'll talk about that. >>> also, the woman accused of shoving her husband off a cliff all of eight days after they said their i dos, her trial is just getting underway. the bride admits to pushing her husband to his death....
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summer was obama's top national security -- why he says the u.s. doesn't need to cut a deal with hamid karzai of afghanistan. >>> next, how to understand the booming american economy. i'll ask the man who
summer was obama's top national security -- why he says the u.s. doesn't need to cut a deal with hamid karzai of afghanistan. >>> next, how to understand the booming american economy. i'll ask the man who
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president obama delivered a moving speech calling mandela the last great liberator of the 20th century. >> and the documents leaked by edward snoeden, u.s. and british intelligence operations have agents monitoring online gaming. >> and olympic skier body miller reached a agreement on the custody fight. >> also coming up the survivor depicted in the mark wahlberg movie. he opens up to one of the deadliest days in afghanistan. plus helping the afghan man who ultimately saved his life. >>> and evan lysacek cap toward skating olympic gold in vancouver. he's with us this morning exclusively with a big announcement with sochi less than two months away. >>> let's begin this half hour with a story out of los angeles that's been developing overnight. a strange case and willie has the details. good morning. >> this is an odd one. authorities arrested a los angeles man who allegedly pranked coaches from the nba nhl to think they're offered top jobs. >> i have been hoaxing calls since i was 12 years old. >> he was tricking professional and college coaches thinking he was offering high-profile coa
president obama delivered a moving speech calling mandela the last great liberator of the 20th century. >> and the documents leaked by edward snoeden, u.s. and british intelligence operations have agents monitoring online gaming. >> and olympic skier body miller reached a agreement on the custody fight. >> also coming up the survivor depicted in the mark wahlberg movie. he opens up to one of the deadliest days in afghanistan. plus helping the afghan man who ultimately saved...
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mandela meant many things to many people, including president obama, who offered this tribute shortly after mandela's death. >> for now, let us pause and give thanks for the fact that nelson mandela lived, a man who took history in his hands and bent the arc of the moral universe towards justice. >> no one can deny the indelible contributions and sacrifices that nelson mandela made and for the people of south africa and ultimately the world. but often when a great leader passes on, what we think we know about that person and the truth become two different things. after death, the legacies of great leaders are often usurped and punched of any imperfection. this is exactly what happened with dr. martin luther king jr. his contributions are often confined to racial equality battles when his message was, in fact, much larger than that. remember, it wasn't just the march on washington. it was the march on washington for jobs and freedom. king's own economic message of a radical redistribution of wealth was not well received, and at the end of his life, he was not a national hero. he was re
mandela meant many things to many people, including president obama, who offered this tribute shortly after mandela's death. >> for now, let us pause and give thanks for the fact that nelson mandela lived, a man who took history in his hands and bent the arc of the moral universe towards justice. >> no one can deny the indelible contributions and sacrifices that nelson mandela made and for the people of south africa and ultimately the world. but often when a great leader passes on,...
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was president obama's top adviser on national security, tom donnelly, on the iran deal and on why he says the u.s. doesn't need to cut a deal with hamid karzai of afghanistan. >>> next, how
was president obama's top adviser on national security, tom donnelly, on the iran deal and on why he says the u.s. doesn't need to cut a deal with hamid karzai of afghanistan. >>> next, how
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obama will be travelling to south africa to attend memorial services for nelson mandela and be accompanied by three former presidents, george w. bush, bill clinton and jimmy carter. bitter cold temperatures, snow and freezing rain continue to grip much of the country. powerful storms stretching from texas to ohio is causing power outages, treacherous driving conditions and is blamed for several deaths. it is forecast to think mid atlantic states later today. merrill newman arrived at san francisco airport yesterday after being held in north korea for several weeks. the 85-year-old korean war vet was touring the country when he was detained by north korean authorities. he says he is delighted to be home. ♪ >> jennifer of massachusetts nearly pulled off one of the world's biggest upset in bay route, lebanon placing third in the arabs got talent competition. not bad for a 23-year-old american who barely speaks any arabic. syrian das troupe cima took first prize. >> today's weather in a word, cold, arctic air has put the country in a deep-freeze, snow and icy rain could make it a mess as wel
obama will be travelling to south africa to attend memorial services for nelson mandela and be accompanied by three former presidents, george w. bush, bill clinton and jimmy carter. bitter cold temperatures, snow and freezing rain continue to grip much of the country. powerful storms stretching from texas to ohio is causing power outages, treacherous driving conditions and is blamed for several deaths. it is forecast to think mid atlantic states later today. merrill newman arrived at san...
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today leaders from around the world gathered to honor nelson mandela. but instead of celebrating the man, many republicans focused their attention on something else. this hand shake between president obama and cuban president raul castro set the right wing off. senator john mccain led the charge. >> should he not have done it? >> of course not. why should you shake hands with somebody who's keeping americans in prison? i mean, what's the point?
today leaders from around the world gathered to honor nelson mandela. but instead of celebrating the man, many republicans focused their attention on something else. this hand shake between president obama and cuban president raul castro set the right wing off. senator john mccain led the charge. >> should he not have done it? >> of course not. why should you shake hands with somebody who's keeping americans in prison? i mean, what's the point?
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. >> mandela died on thursday at the age of 95 after a long illness. president obama, as well as former presidents bill clinton, george w. bush, all expected to attend ceremonies in south africa in the next several days. before he is buried in his rural hometown one week from tomorrow. >>> a real leader in very many ways, on many levels. >> an iconic figure. >> for sure. >>> it was 72 years ago today japan launched the surprise attack pullingth united states into world war ii. we will go to pearl harbor as we remember that fateful day. >>> may be the key to the success of obama care, but as the signup deadline nears, can president obama urge enough young healthy people to buy in? >> i do remember what it's like being 27 or 28 and aside from the occasional basketball injury, you know, most of the time i kind of felt like i had nothing to worry about. of course, that's what most people think. until they have something to worry about. so ally bank has a raise your re cd that wothat's correct.a rate. cause'm really nervous about getting trapped. why's that
. >> mandela died on thursday at the age of 95 after a long illness. president obama, as well as former presidents bill clinton, george w. bush, all expected to attend ceremonies in south africa in the next several days. before he is buried in his rural hometown one week from tomorrow. >>> a real leader in very many ways, on many levels. >> an iconic figure. >> for sure. >>> it was 72 years ago today japan launched the surprise attack pullingth united states...
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look at the crowd, president obama, first lady, also former president and first lady george w. and laura bush, and another former first lady, hillary clinton. bill clinton, by the way, flies into johannesburg tomorrow. he had something else going on. i believe jake tapper is here with me. more on the -- what should we call this, the presidents' club? >> the most exclusive frequent flier club in the world, perhaps. bill clinton and chelsea clinton are down in rio doing an event and then they'll meet the rest of the family in johannesburg. this could be the biggest gathering of heads of state since the winston churchill funeral in 1965. it's amazing. what is also interesting, you would think sometimes it would get awkward on the flights. obama has spent a lot of time blaming things on his predecessor. >> you've got to wonder. >> but in reality, this long flights have actually forged some of the most longest-lasting friendships between former presidents, the former presidents club, that have ever happened. for instance, in 1999, bill clinton and george h.w. bush flew to king husse
look at the crowd, president obama, first lady, also former president and first lady george w. and laura bush, and another former first lady, hillary clinton. bill clinton, by the way, flies into johannesburg tomorrow. he had something else going on. i believe jake tapper is here with me. more on the -- what should we call this, the presidents' club? >> the most exclusive frequent flier club in the world, perhaps. bill clinton and chelsea clinton are down in rio doing an event and then...